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what we find in this case is something

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very real happened to them they have all

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of the various symptoms of being exposed

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to some type of radiation

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now the type of radiation is an unknown

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to us because the strange part is that

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the symptoms are not classic of ionizing

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or of microwave or of any other specific

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one but more of the of the nature of a

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mixture of radiations and that puzzles

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this because generally devices don't put

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out a mixture of radiations you're in

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McDonnell Douglas aircraft

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what would do something like this

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we don't know we've looked into all the

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technology that we see flying today

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working at the Space Center as we do we

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find that it's very easy to to tell you

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what's going on so to say the Leading

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Edge of technology is visible the secret

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Edge probably isn't but nevertheless we

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don't see the technology that could have

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done this

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it appears that there was some high

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generation Source probably a microwave

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but maybe with a little bit of X-ray

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thrown in

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an unknown device to us

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what did the Air Force say to all this

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we've had no help from anyone as far as

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defining what happened here we have a

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case where we had a UFO of some type an

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unidentified flying object not

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necessarily a flying saucer we had a

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number of helicopters obviously military

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and we can find no one that will take

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credit for any of that no branch of the

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military service no organization of the

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government but we're convinced because

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of these people and the other witnesses

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that this really did happen now you

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interview the other Witnesses what did

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we have some very good Witnesses one of

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the witnesses was an ex-army man that

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had jumped from helicopters in an

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Airborne unit and he was very familiar

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with the type of helicopter seen here he

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also saw them and said that's exactly

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what was here he described the formation

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in which they flew the way they acted

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obviously they were here what are these

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helicopters used for well generally

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they're used for Transportation heavy

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loads troop insertion that sort of thing

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could this could these helicopters have

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been carrying this device it's possible

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it's very possible that one of the one

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of them could have been carrying it the

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type of helicopters used here were a

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ch-47 that's a twin rotor a large lift

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heavy capability unit they generally

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don't multiple sling an object in other

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words two helicopters the three don't

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carry one out

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so it would have been something that

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could have been carried within the

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weight limitations of one helicopter and

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the size of the thing being like the

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water tank in the city nearby makes that

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rather prohibitive but not impossible

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this family has suffered serious medical

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problems and emotional problems

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we have monitored this since the first

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month we have documented all of it in

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writing with photographs with tape

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recordings with video recordings we are

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convinced of the continuing trauma that

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the people are experiencing we don't

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have an explanation for it we are

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worried about it and we do need help on

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it we would like to see more witnesses

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come forward we'd also like to see some

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responsibility taken by someone in the

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government one of the services

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particularly to tell us what type of

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radiation was seen not necessary to say

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why it was done just a matter of how can

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we best treat them are these symptoms

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that these people suffered common

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throughout the experiences other people

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have suffered that you've investigated

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well these people have seen more trauma

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than most cases not all but most there

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are other cases such as a gentleman in

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Canada in 1967 suffered very similar

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effects to what these people have seen

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he had the burns the illness the the

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weakness the weight loss and all but in

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most cases it's generally limited to eye

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damage or maybe some minor burns Project

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Blue Book was closed do you think that

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there is still an organization

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investigating UFOs or do you think that

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the government has some type of agency

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that just isn't telling us what's going

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on I really don't believe so I think

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that it's being Stonewall completely to

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the point they don't even have a group

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doing it and I think that's wrong

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there's enough proof that people are

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being hurt objects are being seen

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something mysterious is still going on

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just like it was in the days of Blue

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Book and something should be done to

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monitor it what do you think

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I think there should be a special agency

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set up not under one of the military

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branches but under a civilian agency to

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do this and if a civilian agency gets

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the job

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they're obviously not going to get any

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money well it requires budgets we know

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how it is working without a budget

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getting people medical examinations and

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just travel alone the two things are

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very expensive and without a budget they

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couldn't function what do you put your

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show our pictures show hair loss extreme

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hair loss they show swollen puffy eyes

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red eyes they show skin conditions where

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they're large sores

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darkened skin burns scars

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uh that's generally what they show you

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know visibly that's what you can see you

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can't see the other things such as

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weight loss and that sort of thing it

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has a sampling of the hair loss seen by

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Mrs cash for instance how rapid did this

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happen it happened uh fairly fairly soon

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third week is when the major hair loss

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occurred when great chunks of hair came

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out and we have documentation to show

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that she had a tremendous head of hair

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before this happened because it was

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Christmas season and she had her hair

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fixed and had it photographed in fact

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for Christmas so they gave us a real

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good way of comparing it this is only

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four days later what about the skin

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irritation the skin irritation

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is very significant also

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there's a heel sore but those that are

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are not healed

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are things like this

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that's unbelievable this is Mrs

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Lantern's hand months later this was

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eight at least eight months later still

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showing the the blue burn and the like

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and Soares and they swell up and burst

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this is not something that was scratched

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and gouged this is something that

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actually came internally from the

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changes probably immunological Society

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and her arm showing some of the damage

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that she incurred that occurred months

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later these these swords started coming

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up very soon and she go through Cycles

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some months that they would go kind of

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go away and other months they would come

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back this was during a flare-up over

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about a four day period this came from

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just the scar type area to a sore to a

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ruptured sore and then went away

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back in the days of the 50s when they

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were experimenting with the

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with the bombs the nuclear bombs

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people and soldiers were exposed to this

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type of radiation has there been any

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comparative data showing a correlation

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between this type of a an infliction

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here and what the other people suffered

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is it unfortunately not so much of that

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data is not available to us we've been

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trying to get but see the Privacy Act

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prevents you from getting medical

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records on individuals and that's a real

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problem for us in making comparisons we

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have talked to various agencies that do

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research on radiation and find that they

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can manifest themselves in all sorts of

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the person's background their weight the

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kind of medicines they've been taking or

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lack of medicines

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things like the types of vitamins

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they've been taking can affect how the

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radiation affects them are these Burns

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something unique have you ever seen

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anything like this before this is the

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this is not what we normally see this

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case is much more severe and all three

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of these people they had the source of

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this nature if only one had you should

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say maybe they had an allergic reaction

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or something but not when three people

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have the very similar type conditions

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so it is unique

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what do the doctors say

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have you ever seen anything like this

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the doctors had no idea what was going

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on to be honest about it doctors

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generally know very little about UFOs

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they generally know very little about

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something like this and when a person

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comes in with some specific symptom they

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start the standard test that they

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normally run they go through a whole

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series of things they end up saying we

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don't know what it is that's essentially

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what happens here

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this is three years later Vicki into

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Vicki and Colby are still having to

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undergo

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inspections of their blood

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and they're still suffering from this

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this is two years later

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what does that mean well to me it means

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that they had a significant dose of some

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type of radiation not necessarily

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ionizing radiation but maybe microwave

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something that changed their system to

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damaged cells and it's really to me a

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verification of something significant

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happened if it had been a passing thing

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like in two months they've gone through

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the whole cycle and it was gone I would

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think well it was a very minor exposure

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but when obviously their immunological

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systems have been affected their health

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in general had been affected that means

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something significant happens

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when we tried to contact the people at

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the Air Force Base here everyone

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involved at that time has since been

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transferred out and we can't even locate

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them what does that mean

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well with the military it could mean

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simply that they've done their normal

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thing they've rotated people but it does

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make you suspect that there's a little

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more to it particularly when we didn't

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get answers either in the in the first

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place when people were there so it is a

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strange situation and it just adds to

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the mystery and the Mystery could be

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eradicated by somebody just talking

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frankly about it how many witnesses were

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there through this event well to the

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event where it took place

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there were only the three people that

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were injured but there are other

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witnesses to an object coming over the

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area that night ranging from Liberty

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Texas which is some 25 miles from where